Has anyone made you like Judy less?

[overworked]

Kind of a weird topic for a fan board, but it's happend to me.

A lady I work with wears her emotions on her sleeve, and it often pisses people off. And she acts immature to the point where it's embarrassing for the people around her.

She takes her problems at home and turns them into everyone's problem at work.

She uses her vulnerability to get away with...whatever it is she needs to get away with.

She's like this on a daily basis.
This is a pretty scathing portrait of Judy, so let me say that, as far as I know, this is not how Judy was typically. She was selfless and friendly in all sorts of scenarios. But, there sure seemed to be "that" side to her - or so I have read. I freely admit that I'm sure I would not have held up as well as Judy did if I had the same forced pressure, standards, drugs, ridicule, and the overall awful treatment that she received

My co-worker was in raw form today. Everyone, including my boss, was completely fed up with her. But, for the millionth time, she got away with it. You may sympathize with her because we all have days like this, but that's not what I'm talking about. She's a horror to work with, and patients and understanding only worsen the situation.

My info my not be the best. I've read/heard pleasant snippits here and there, but the only books I've read were "Get Happy" and the book by Mel Torme. Neither were too flattering, overall.
This is really unfair to compare just this side of Judy, but I guess I'm just curious.
I'm I just a lone prick, or does anyone else ever see her in a different light because of someone you know?

[ravan729]

what the hell are you babbling about?

[bug]

I wondered the same thing myself, but I think what they might be asking is if we know anyone who we think may act the way Judy did sometimes. Someone who shows some of those negative personality traits. Do we compare that person to Judy, and does that make us like Judy any less?

If that is correct it's a rather far-reaching question. I don't think too much about Judy's negative personality traits. I know she had them, but what I read about in books may or may not be true. None of it matters to me, and I don't take any bio I've read about Judy to be 100% fact.

I don't think I really know anyone, or have to be around anyone who is especially hard to get along with, so no -- no one has made me like Judy less.

[overworked]

Yep, you got my point...as far reaching as it appears to have been.

I put out the weak disclamor - the accounts I have read were not from the friendliest sources.

I just found stricking negative similarities about Judy, especially from the Mel Torme book, and the woman I work with, and I wondered if anyone else related to a similar situation.

This is obviously an unpopular thread.
I'll drop it.

[ravan729]

unpopular=who cares

[moocow]

Feb 23, 2009 18:39:40 GMT -5 ravan729 said:

what the hell are you babbling about?

He is talking about has anyone changed your opinion of Judy by something they said.


I think that Judy did have an unpleasant side from time to time, and from the amount of drugs she was taking people saw it more towards the end of her life. But then again, who doesn't have an unpleasant side?

When people talk about Judy in a harsh way, I just ignore it, because I know how much of a hard life she lead, and if anything, people's unnessasary comments, have made me appreciate her more, as I can see the sort of things she would have had to deal with when she was still alive.

[bogart]

I always forgive Judy for acting out at times. She couldn't help it, it was just who she was.

Yes she could make you have a mental breakdown too, if you weren't careful in how you treated her.

I think part of Judy always stayed a child, while she was a grown woman. In that way she never grew old.
But did she grow up? She had the voice of a grown woman when she was only 12 years old. When she was treated as a lady, she became a lady, when she was treated like dirt, she got very low indeed.

I think we always need to be aware of the dangers of drugs that have the potential to mix everything up and turn Judy toxic.

Actually to answer the question, I don't know anyone who ever had anything deliberately bad to say about Judy, except out of ignorance, or they were perverts and plain bad people who didn't realise what they were slandering. Maybe there were people out to destroy her, I don't know. But I think she was so trusting she let a lot of those kind of scum into her life and got taken in at times. They tried to make a monster and a diva out of her. She wasn't a diva. She was fine just the way she was.